2019-11-12 MinutesCITY OF OKEECHOBEE, FLORIDA
r NOVEMBER 12, 2019, CITY COUNCIL AND
G BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSION JOINT WORKSHOP
SUMMARY OF DISCUSSION
CALL TO ORDER/COMMENCEMENT
Okeechobee County Commission Chairperson Terry Burroughs called the joint workshop to
order on Tuesday, November 12, 2019, at 6:00 P.M. held at the Okeechobee County Historic
Court House, Room 270, 304 Northwest 2nd Street, Okeechobee, Florida 34972. The invocation
was offered by Father Shevlin of the Church of Our Saviour. The Pledge of Allegiance was led
by Chairperson Burroughs.
ATTENDANCE
City: Mayor Dowling R. Watford, Jr., Council Members Wes Abney, Monica Clark, Bob Jarriel,
and Bobby Keefe, City Clerk Lane Gamiotea, City Administrator Marcos MontesDeOca, and Fire
Chief Herb Smith were present. City Attorney John Cook was absent with consent.
County: Chairperson Burroughs, County Commissioners Bryant Culpepper, Bradley G.
Goodbread, Kelly Owens, and David Hazellief, County Attorney Becky Vose, County
Administrator Robbie Chartier, County Deputy Clerks Jeff Shain and Paula Poskon were
present.
Discuss Fire Services.
Mayor Watford thanked the County Commission for the use of their meeting facilities and hosting
the joint workshop requested by the City Council. The topic is to consider merging the City and
County Fire Departments. The primary reason the City Council entertained the idea is strictly
financial. The Council and Commissioners were asked to share their individual thoughts,
questions, or comments on the subject.
Council Member Jarriel is of the opinion that City expenses could be reduced by the County
providing all fire services with a non -ad valorem special assessment being implemented for City
properties, just as it is currently done for emergency medical (ambulance) services in the City
and County. He asked the County to provide what the assessment amount would be for
residential and commercial properties. Once the amount was known, the City would be able to
ascertain the amount the millage rate could be reduced without having to fund the fire services
through ad valorem revenue. Council Member Clark requested the amount of the assessment
as well. However, she also wants to look at all options that would be available, not just for the
County to assume the responsibility.
Council Member Abney was in support of the measure that would continue the same level of
service the City is currently providing, at the lowest cost to the taxpayers. He, along with
Commissioner Goodbread, asked whether it would be prudent to have a consultant provide
appropriate information and recommendations to guide both entities. Commissioner Goodbread
also asked whether this was an issue that should be provided to the City voters.
Commissioners Owens and Culpepper noted the many financial aspects that would have to be
addressed, as well as legal aspects regarding the Union contracts, that both entities have.
Council Member Keefe and Commissioner Hazellief were of the opinion that Staff could provide
the answers to address the financial and legal aspects. Council Member Keefe added the City
spent $40,000.00 for a consultant in 2017 to provide a report on implementing a fire assessment,
that was as far as it went, and he did not want to spend more money in that same manner.
Chairperson Burroughs added that while this is a complex matter, he believed it was something
that could be provided between both entities' Staff, as everything is driven by numbers. Although
consultants have a value by providing an unbiased view.
Mayor Watford suggested the easiest way to approach the issue would be to have the County
provide the City with two options; the figures to implement a fire assessment with the County
taking over fire services, and an amount the County would charge the City to provide fire services
through a contractual agreement.
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Chairperson Burroughs then opened the floor for public comments. Pastor Mark McCarter of
First Baptist Church of Okeechobee and Pastor Loy Mershermer of the Presbyterian Church
asked that small churches and non -profits be taken into consideration should a fire assessment
be considered within the City, as they do not have the flexibility and resources as larger ones.
Pastor McCarter explained that a former mission started over 40 years ago by First Baptist
Church had grown into its own independent church, Cornerstone Baptist (formerly known as 441
North Baptist), but had to close their doors last year. Their Pastor stated one of the primary
contributing factors was the fire assessment adopted by the County. It was asked to consider
lowering the assessment amount or exempting churches/non-profits (as they are exempted from
the emergency medical service assessment).
Joseph Reschetar stated he did not understand calling this a merger, he would call it a "take
over." He asked whether the City Firefighters would have a job. Then suggested the decision be
put to the voters, and should he have to vote today it would be no.
Mayor Watford announced that both Boards received a letter signed by the Economic Council
Executive Director Jennifer Tewksbury and Chairperson Jeff Sumner. He then read the letter
into the record: "After thorough research and careful consideration for the welfare of the
community, the Economic Council of Okeechobee County fully supports the complete merger of
the City and County fire rescue services. This action will save the City (and City residents and
taxpayers) an estimated $600,000.00 to $1,000,000.00 annually and will result in little to no
reduction in services or level of public safety. As you continue in this endeavor, we ask for your
continued commitment to the forward progress of our community. Thank you for your service to
the people of Okeechobee."
Karen Brass identified herself as a City resident and stated she was blessed to be depended on
the punctuality of the City Fire Department when her residence caught on fire. The County could
not have gotten there within the time the City responded. There are several older homes in the
City. The money is a concern. However, unless it could be shown how realistic the savings would
be, she could not see the need in closing a beautifully well-run level of service within a
department that is working so well. She also pointed out that historically mergers with the City
and County departments have not worked for the betterment of the City residents.
Jarrod Akins identified himself as a City resident and County Firefighter. He asked that when the
savings to the City is being looked at, consider what it is going to cost the County to increase
the level of service to mirror what is currently provided within the City. He also questioned what
the overall benefit will be if costs are increased.
Linda Pearce, a commercial property owner within the City stated her taxes are $9,000.00 per
year. A County fire tax would cause her to have to increase her rent, which will result in lost
tenants. Small businesses are struggling. If they cannot afford the rent what will happen to them.
She closed with asking the City Council "if you get rid of the City Fire Department, then why not
the entire City, why not your jobs?"
Mack "Hoot" Worley, City property and business owner, expressed his appreciation to both
entities for holding the workshop. The Economic Council does not have a bone to pick with the
City Fire Department. The City needs to ask the County to take over the City fire services. If the
City can save $600,000.00 to $1,000,000.00 that money could be used to pave streets or lower
the millage rate. There is not an economic scale to compare the issue to, it was the same when
Walmart first came here. Yes, it caused some businesses to close. Regarding hiring a
consultant, he suggested the numbers provided by the Economic Council was enough and done
in an unbiased way. It is incumbent on the City Council to make this decision.
Daniel Ciorrocco identified himself as a County Firefighter stating he has listened to people within
the community discuss this issue. Some are fearful and worried about their loss of care or
increasing costs; that fear is understandable. The City and County Firefighters can do their jobs,
we love our jobs, and we do not do them to be millionaires. There is concern about the careers
of the personnel at the City should this merger happen. It has been said that only 50 percent of
the current staff could be provided a position at the County. Should anyone lose their jobs over
this, that will be real fear, fear to not be able to put a roof over our children's heads and food on
the table. He asked that caring for the City personnel be made a priority.
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County Fire Chief Franklin was instructed to provide the information to the City's
questions to the County Commissioners at the November 26, 2019, meeting. Once the
Commissioners have an opportunity to review this information it will be decided whether
it is ready to be forwarded to the City Council or needs more content. Once the information
is reviewed by the County and forwarded to the City Council, scheduling a second workshop
would then be discussed.
Commissioner Culpepper requested that County Administrator Chartier also provide what the
costs would be to purchase one ambulance and hire six paramedics, stating he owed it to the
County to look at that option for the City to do their own emergency medical services and assess
the costs by incident. That option could prove to be better.
III. There being no further items on the agenda, Chairperson Burroughs adjourned the workshop at
7:16 P.M.
Dowling R. Watford, Jr., Mayor
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Lane 6amiotea, CMC, City Clerk
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Okeechobee County
' Board of County Commissioners
Special Session
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Meeting Location
304 NW 2nd Street
Okeechobee,FL 34972
863-763-6441
www.co.okeechobee.fl.us
Tuesday, November 12, 2019 6:00 PM Historic Courthouse, Room 270
Call to Order
Terry Burroughs
Bryant Culpepper
Kelly Owens
David Hazellief
Bradley G. Goodbread
Robbie Chartier
John Cassels
Jeff Shain
Commencement
Chairman
Commissioner
Commissioner
Commissioner
Commissioner
County Administrator
County Attorney
Deputy Clerk
Agenda
1. JOINT WORKSHOP WITH THE CITY OF OKEECHOBEE TO DISCUSS FIRE
SERVICES— Tracy Rowland
That the Board of County Commissioners conduct a joint workshop with the City of
Okeechobee to discuss fire services.
III. Adjournment
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Board of County Commissioners
304 NW 2nd Street Department: Administration
Okeechobee, FL 34972 Category: General Business
• j Prepared By: Tracy Rowland
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SCHEDULED Initiator: Tracy Rowland
ACTION ITEM (ID # 5621)
SUBJECT: JOINT WORKSHOP WITH THE CITY OF OKEECHOBEE TO DISCUSS FIRE
SERVICES
MEETING: Special Session November 12, 2019
FINANCIAL IMPACT:
unknown
REQUESTED ACTION:
That the Board of County Commissioners conduct a joint workshop with the City of Okeechobee
to discuss fire services.
BACKGROUND:
the City of Okeechobee requests a joint workshop to discuss fire services.
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To: Mayor Dowling R. Watford Jr.
City Council.
Wes Abney
Monica Clark
Bob Jarriel
Robby Keefe
From: City Administrator Marcos Montes De Oca, P.E.
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RF: City Fire .Service Options — Update to be Placed on October 15, 2019 Council Meeting
As directed by council, I have prepared clarifications and a basic outline for potential fire service options for
review and discussion. Staff has met with county administration and fire departments for clarification of the
expectations and potential future of fire services within the city and has incorporated a summary for review.
An immediate resolution for determining the future of the fire services are crucial due to staff morale and
potential timing of completing council's direction prior to the upcoming budget year-end.
Future Fire Service Options for the City
)Retain Fire Department
- Continue with current Fire department with additional review of standard operation procedures to
explore additional efficiencies
- Prepare an update to the previous report to complete an updated fire assessment for the City and
residences. Millage drop would be an immediate match in what is collected via the assessment.
Creation of an Independent Fire District
(An option not discussed, however, is in operation at several areas surrounding Okeechobee County)
- Would be an independent taxing authority for both county and city
- Would require "buy -in" from both entities prior to execution
Contracting Services to County
- All fire department services, fire and related inspections removed from City control.
- City retains taxing authority over residences and businesses.
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- Millage would be required to drop to "true costs" of fire department, a future potential drop of
millage of 34% depending on merger and other future costs.
Consolidation of Fire Services to County
- All fire department services removed from City control.
City surrenders taxing authority over residences and businesses, county to apply a newly
determined fire assessment on all businesses and residents in county. Note: it is expected that the
fire assessment for the county would decrease as the city's businesses and residents will supplant
county costs.
Residential assessments in the county are currently $108.15. Business assessments are based on
industrial or commercial usages, then applied to a rate table based on a square footage basis and
laddered on a flat rate between given ranges. The table will be forthcoming if required.
A note from staff regarding ad valorem; during the initial City Fire Assessment discussion in 2016
it was discovered that 25-30% of residences do not pay $100 combined in taxes to the city due to
exemptions and home values.
- County Fire Assessments do not exempt any uses, i.e. houses of worship.
- A millage reduction would be drastic, due to the costs diverted to the County and ultimately to the
residents. Residents would cover the assessment and potential future increased costs. A future
potential drop of millage of 5-6% may occur depending on merger details and other future costs.
Items of Consideration for Contracting of Services or Consolidation
(Independent Fire District Considerations Omitted)
- ISO rating potentially will remain the same, a review of the county as a single operating agency will
be required.
- Level of service to citizens will remain close to current level. Approximately 300 minor accident /
medical type calls per year will not have a fire response. Currently, under county standard operating
procedure would not warrant a response.
- City does not duplicate county fire service, county does duplicate fire services within city due to
county EMS standard operating procedures, excludes mutual aid or auto -aid.
- Over 1000 new business construction inspections and business tax inspections are conducted
annually. These inspections as well as any revenue generated would be lost. Inspections must be
merged with fire services, as they are an ISO item and cannot be separated.
- Equipment transfer not included, however items would be negotiated on a one-on-one basis
- County would require no more than 6 more employees, estimated currently at 0-6 new employees, to
cover the additional area. City Fire has 12 Firefighters, whom will be afforded the opportunity to
apply, however not guaranteed a position
- City Firefighters would be afforded the opportunity to apply, however all rank and years of services
would be relinquished.
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City could potentially have to pay 60% of the salary of all those displaced for unemployment
benefits for up to two years
- Pension benefits are to be determined — costs associated depend on other decisions. Additional costs
are expected for those vested (6), and potentially involve a severance/benefit given once position is
lost for those not vested based on years of service (6). Additional discussions with pension attorney
for continuation of the operation of the fire department pension to be determined as well as costs
associated.
Based on initial review with the county, costs for services would range from $0 up to $625k. Our
current total costs are approximately $1.3M. The City may incur additional costs for potential plan
reviewer and/or professional services for pension administration.
- Current request from staff to retain internal Fire Department Plan Reviewer proposed. Reviewer
would have ability to assist with other building department reviews. There will also be a loss of
revenue for all inspections. Note: fire plan review costs are to stay within the City.
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Facts and Data concerning the CitV Fire Department Operations
ISO Rating (City FD) is "3" (As of the last report received 2019)
Aid Received and Given is based on the dates October 31st 2018 through October 31St, 2019.
Aid Received by OCFR is "3 times"
y Aid Given to OCFR is "31 times"
Response Times for the City FD within the City Limits
3 to 4 minutes average for all incidents (medical and non-medical)
Total Incident Calls per Vear:
y See Attached
Plan Reviews (Blueprint Reading/Life Safety Code Evaluation)
➢ 25 reviews submitted per year on average
o From these 25 reviews: an average of 3 field inspections required prior completion
y 10 reviews/consultations per year average
0 1 inspection per review required to assist with the request
Total reviews per year are "35" and from these reviews: 85 field inspections are generated
r Total Average for man-hours reviewing plans: 80 to 100 hours
Special Events (request for permits to use parks have fundraisers parades, fairs, etc.)
Total of 34 of these within the last 12 -months
o From the 34 events: One inspection per event is conducted (total of 34 inspections)
• A minimum of two -firefighters (plus on -duty crews) are utilized to attend these events (the
bigger type that may require monitoring like the speckled perch festival)
■ A fire truck or Golf cart is used during these events (about 30 percent require this)
o Very special events conducted by the Fire department:
■ Santa on the fire truck (three nights prior to Christmas)
Inspections: BTR Requests/Annual & Periodic Inspections/Complaints/Etc. (last 12 -months)
➢ The average total of 206 Inspections conducted by fire crews/inspectors
y Total Inspections including the 206 plus plan review/events: 2,125 Inspections conducted on average
YEAR Total Annual
INCIDENTS
2003
332
2004
414
2005
571
1800 1
2006
716
1600
2007
804
1400
2008
954
2009
1204
1200 1
2010
1360
1000
2011
1298
2012
1305
800
2013
1275
600
2014
1349
400
2015
1355
2016
1363
200
2017
1691
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2018
1518
2002
2019
1218 ( OCT)
2004
2006
Chart Title
2008 2010 2012
�— —a Total Annual INCIDENTS
2014 2016 2018
NOTE: THE SAME NUMBER OF FIREFIGHTERS HAS NOT CHANGED FOR THIS PERIOD OF TIME DISPITE REQUESTS TO DO SO
The same 11 firefighter positions still remain excluding the fire chief
The same 11 firefighter positions have mitigated emergencies regardless of the major increases over the years
Lane Gamiotea
From: Robin Brock
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2019 5:01 PM
To: Council Member Abney; Council '.Member Clark; Council Member Jarriel; Council
Member Keefe; Mayor Dowling R. Watford, Jr.
Cc: Marcos Montes De Oca; Lane Gamiotea
Subject: Fire Data from Chief Smith
Attachments: Fire Data.pdf
Please see attached. A printed copy will be provided at the meeting tonight.
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Okeechobee
November 12"', 2019
The Honorable Dowling R. Watford, Jr.
City of Okeechobee
55 SE Yd Avenue
Okeechobee, Florida 34974
RE: Merger of City and County Fire Rescue Services
Dear Mayor Watford:
Economic Council of Okeechobee
1679 NW 9" Street
Okeechobee, Florida 34972
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After thorough research and careful consideration for the welfare of the community, the Economic
Council of Okeechobee County fully supports the complete merger of City and County fire rescue
services. This action will save the City (and City residents and taxpayers) an estimated $600,000.00 to $1
million annually and will result in little to no reduction in services or level of public safety. As you
continue in this endeavor, we ask for your continued commitment to the forward progress of our
community.
Thank you for your service to the people of Okeechobee.
Sincerely,
M. Tewksbury
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is Council of Okeechobee County, Inc.
CC:
Wes Abney
Monica Clark
Bob Jarriel
Bobby Keefe
Marcos Montes De Oca
Terry Burroughs
Bryant Culpepper
Brad Goodbread
David Hazellief
Kelly Owens
Robbie Chartier
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Economic Council of Okeechobee County, Inc.