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1996-04-03 Regular Meeting109 A. Call Meeting to order on April 3, 1996 at 7:00 p.m. B. Invocation offered by Reverend Hart; Pledge of Allegiance led by Mayor Kirk. C. Mayor and Council Attendance: Mayor James E. Kirk Council Member Noel A_ Chandler Council Member Michael G. O'Connor Council Member Robert Oliver Council Member Dowling R. Watford, Jr. Staff Attendance: City Attorney John R. Cook City Administrator John J. Drago City Clerk Bonnie S. Thomas Deputy Clerk S. Lane Gamiotea CITY OF OKEECHOBEE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING SUMMARY OF COUNCIL ACTION PAGE 1 OF 8 Mayor Kirk called the regular meeting to order on April 3, 1996 at 7:00 p.m. Dowling R. Watford, Jr. offered the invocation; Mayor Kirk led the Pledge of Allegiance. Clerk Thomas called the roll: Present Present Present Present Present Present Present Present Present D. Motion to dispense with reading and approve the Summary of Council Member O'Connor moved to dispense with reading and approve the Summary Council Action of the Special Meeting of January 30, 1996 and the of Council Action of the Special Meeting of January 30, 1996 and the Regular Meeting Regular Meeting of February 20, 1996. of February 20, 1996; seconded by Council Member Oliver. KIRK CHANDLER O'CONNOR OLIVER WATFORD MOTION CARRIED. 110 APRIL 3, 1996 - REGULAR MEETING - PAGE 2 OF 8 E. Motion to approve Warrant Registers for January, 1996 in the Council Member Watford moved to approve Warrant Registers for January, 1996 in the amount of $300,894.30 and February, 1996 in the amount of amount of three hundred thousand, eight hundred ninety-four dollars, thirty cents $212,093.51. ($300,894.30) and for February 1996 in the amount of two hundred twelve thousand, ninety-three dollars, fifty-one cents ($212,093.51); seconded by Council Member Oliver. Council Member Watford questioned the monies in Financial Services, Other Current Charges, most of these are items that are coming in from Public Utilities and he wanted to know if all those were just about finished? Administrator Drago responded yes. KIRK CHANDLER O'CONNOR OLIVER WATFORD MOTION CARRIED. REQUEST FOR THE ADDITION, DEFERRAL OR WITHDRAWAL III Mayor Kirk asked if there were any requests for the addition, deferral or withdrawal of OF ITEMS ON TODAY'S AGENDA. items for today's agenda? There were none. F. NEW BUSINESS 1. Presentation of Proclamation - Mayor Kirk Mayor Kirk requested the Proclamation for Child Abuse Prevention month be mailed to the Exchange Club CASTLE of the Treasure Coast, Inc. since no one could be present at this meeting to receive it. 2. Citizen Advisory Council LDR Update - David Hazellief David Hazellief, Chairperson for the Citizen Advisory Committee presented to the Mayor, (Exhibit 1). Council and Staff the final Land Development Regulations document prepared by the Committee. He then requested a joint workshop to begin going through the document with the Council to explain the Committee's recommendations and receive Council's input. X X X X X 111 -F. NEW BUSINESS ' 2. Citizen Advisory Committee continued. 3. Hear from Mr. Jim Byrd regarding Building and Zoning - Jim Byrd. 4. Discuss Fire Truck Purchase - Councilman Chandler. APRIL 3, 1996 - REGULAR MEETING - PAGE 3 OF 8 Council Member Watford commented that the City owed the Committee a huge thanks for all their hard work and that he appreciated them. Mayor Kirk and Council agreed and decided to set up a series of workshops to go through the LDR document. Following discussion it was decided to hold the first workshop on Monday, April 8, 1996 beginning at 7:00 p.m. From that workshop the Council can see which day would be best to have the next workshop. It was agreed that the workshops would last approximately two hours and that tables could be set up so that everyone could sit together. Mr. Jim Byrd addressed the Council and stated that he was the owner of Seminole, Inc. And that when he first looked over the guidelines and cost for electrical permits for the new City Building Department he was a little skeptical. Therefore, after going through the process and obtaining his first permit he wanted to inform the Council of how nice and easy it was to go through the process and that the new City building department is going an outstanding job. Council Member Watford asked Mr. Bryd if he thought that the process protects the City? Mr. Byrd responded that from the electrical standpoint, the City did not have anything to worry about and that the gentlemen (Lang Bennett) handling it was very professional and knows the electrical codes and goes "by the book." The Council thanked Mr. Byrd for his comments. Council Member Chandler requested that Clerk Thomas read a portion of the minutes from the August 15, 1995 budget workshop when the purchase of a fire truck was discussed. Clerk Thomas read the portion of the minutes and clarified for Council Member Chandler that when the discussion was held, it was on new fire trucks (not used ones) and a leasing program for financing them. Council Member Chandler then asked the Council for a (designated funding) cap to spend money on a fire truck and stressed that the City should focus on seeking bids for a custom truck only, but did not wish see the price difference between a commercial and custom. 112 F. NEW BUSINESS 4. Discussion on Fire Truck Purchase continued. APRIL 3, 1996 - REGULAR MEETING - PAGE 4 OF 8 There was a lengthy discussion held on commercial trucks, custom trucks, what type of truck the City needed most (pumper or ladder) and how the specifications should go out, how long they should stay out and the monies in the budget to purchase or lease the truck. Council Member Chandler moved to have $200 000 as a cap to purchase a fire truck, $50 000 as a cap for the eauipment for the truck and that the City seek bids for a custom Class A Pumper only seconded by Council Member O'Connor. Council Member Chandler asked that the request for bids go out this Monday (April). Staff commented they would go out this month with a probable turnaround" of forty-five days to get back for CounciI's action. Council Members Watford and Oliver still felt the bids should be on both the Commercial and Custom type trucks. KIRK CHANDLER O'CONNOR OLIVER WATFORD MOTION CARRIED. 5. Motion to approve Glenda Wilson as Police Dispatcher - Council Member Watford moved to approve Glenda Wilson as a police dispatcher; Police Chief. III seconded by Council member O'Connor. KIRK CHANDLER O'CONNOR OLIVER WATFORD MOTION CARRIED. X X X X X j _k 113 APRIL 3, 1996 - REGULAR MEETING - PAGE 6 OF 8 - F. NEW BUSINESS 6. Motion to close S.W. 4th Avenue between Parks 3 and 4 for Council member Watford moved to close Southwest 4th Avenue between Parks three Martha's House Craft Show and Auction on April 13, 1996 - and four for Martha's House Craft Show and Auction on April 13, 1996; seconded by Finance Director. I Council Member Oliver. KIRK CHANDLER O'CONNOR OLIVER WATFORD MOTION CARRIED. 7. Motion to appoint Mr. Glenn Hodges to the Fire Pension Council Member Watford moved to appoint Glenn Hodges to the fire Pension Board Board - Fire Chief (Exhibit 2). 111 seconded by Council Member Chandler. KIRK CHANDLER O'CONNOR OLIVER WATFORD MOTION CARRIED. 8. Motion to appoint Mr. Jerry O'Bannon to the General Fund III Council Member Watford moved to appoint Jerry O'Bannon to the General Fund Employees Pension Board as Trustee - Finance Director. Employees Pension Board as Trustee; seconded by Council Member Oliver. KIRK CHANDLER O'CONNOR OLIVER WATFORD MOTION CARRIED. X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X 114 APRIL 3, 1996 - REGULAR MEETING - PAGE 6 OF 8 F. NEW BUSINESS 9. Discuss purchase of City Property -City Attorney (Exhibit 3). Attorney Cook advised that Mr. G.H. Murphy had not contacted him further from the last time this item was on the agenda and therefore he did not know if Mr. Murphy was still interested in purchasing the property but since the item was back on the agenda he 11 assumed that he was still interested. City Council authorized Attorney Cook to try to obtain the release from Roger Jones and proceed with obtaining a price for the property to offer to Mr. Murphy. 10. Discuss Outstanding Liens - City Attorney (Exhibit 4). Attorney Cook advised the Council that Exhibit Four was the information and re- commendations the Council requested the Code Enforcement Board provide to them to begin foreclosure procedures. Following discussion on the State of Florida's property, Council Member Oliver moved that Attorney Cook do a title search and start the foreclosure on any lien over one thousand dollars on property that would be in the best interest of the City that is listed on Exhibit Four seconded by Council Member Chandler. KIRK CHANDLER O'CONNOR OLIVER WATFORD MOTION CARRIED. 11. Discuss Downtown Redevelopment Grant - City Administrator Administrator Drago explained to the Council that regarding Exhibit Five, his office sent (Exhibit 5). out a questionnaire form to each property owner who signed up for the Grant. To date he has received nineteen yes votes that they wanted the grant, one no voted and two did not respond. X X X X X 115 APRIL 3, 1996 - REGULAR MEETING - PAGE 7 OF 8 F. NEW BUSINESS 11. Discussion on Downtown Redevelopment Grant continued. Administrator Drago further explained that the next step is to have an aerial photo- grammetric and ground survey performed. Proposal's went out and the rank order is listed in Exhibit Five as: DeHays Design of Okeechobee; Lawson, Noble & Webb of 11 West Palm Beach; and Velcon Group, Inc. of Pt. St. Lucie. Council Member Watford questioned paying Fred Fox Enterprises as the Grant Administrator and that he would not be paid over the amount of the contract. Administra- tor Drago clarified that Fred Fox only gets paid what he signed the contract for regardless of the amount of time that it takes. Council Member Oliver asked if any of the money from the grant would go toward purchasing property for off-street parking? Administrator Drago responded that the matching funds coming from refinancing the gas tax note (approximately $900,000) was going toward landscaping and off street parking behind the buildings. Council Member Oliver then asked what kind of time frame do we have? Administrator Drago stated approximately sixty days if the survey contract to be completed. The architect will take a couple of months and then render his/her drawings. He also advised there would be an second contract coming to the Council between the City and architectural firm for the off-street parking and land surveying. Gil Culbreth asked if the grant was just on South Park Street? Administrator Drago answered that he had planned to begin at the Daniels Building, however, Mr. Daniel's had responded that he did not want to participate in the grant so the plan will begin at the "pink building" (at Southwest Park Street and South Parrot Avenue) and go to the Markham Building along South Park Street (at Southwest Park Street and Southwest 6th Avenue). If there is money left over they can start some of the side avenues. Mr. Culbreth asked if there was any money going to upgrade the parks? Administrator Drago stated no because of the issue with the ownership of the parks and that the way the grants are structured with the City not having full ownership it is hard to get the type of grant needed to upgrade the parks. Mr. Culbreth commented that the City has exclusive use of the parks, and that they are a great asset to the City. Administrator Drago also advised that currently the legislature is considering restructuring the grants and there may be a way around it later to a conceptual plan to beautify the parks. IL 1 16 APRIL 3, 1996 - REGULAR MEETING - PAGE 8 OF 8 F. NEW BUSINESS 11. Discussion on Downtown Redevelopment Grant continued. III Mr. David Hazellief commented further that the parks are in need of upgrading so they could be used more by the public and they could be a great asset to the City. Adjournment - Mayor Kirk. PLEASE TAKE NOTICE AND BE ADVISED that if a person decides to appeal any decision made by the City Council with respect to any matter considered at this meeting, he/she may need to insure that a verbatim record of the proceeding is made, which record includes the testimony and evidence upon which the appeal is to be based. A tape recording of this meeting is on file in thy Clerk's Office.. James E. Kirk, Mayor ATTEST: Bonnie S. Thomas, CMC, City Clerk Council Member Watford moved to authorize the City Administrator to begin negotiations with the firms for aerial and ground survey's in the order ranked DeHays Design, Lawson Noble & Webb and Valcon Group Inc.: seconded by Council Member O'Connor. KIRK CHANDLER O'CONNOR OLIVER WATFORD MOTION CARRIED. There being no further items on the agenda, Mayor Kirk adjourned the meeting at 8:45 p.m. CITY OF OKEECHOBEE 4/03/96 REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING HANDWRITTEN MINUTES A. Call meeting to order: B. Invocation: I as " ;Pledge-.— C. Mayor & Council attendance: PRESENT ABSENT Mayor Kirk Councilman Chandler Councilman O'Connor Councilman Oliver F- Councilman Watford Attorney Cook Administrator Drago Clerk Thomas Deputy Clerk Gamiotea D. Council Member,.- moved to dispense with reading and approve the Summary of Council Action of the Special Meeting of January 30, 1996 and the Regular meeting of February 20, 1996; seconded by Council Member j VOTE: YES NO ABSENT KIRK CHANDLER O'CONNOR OLIVER WATFORD MOTION: akRIE /DENIED DISCUSSION: E. Council Member°' . moved to approve Warrant Registers for January, 1996 in the amount of $300,894.30 and February, 1996 in the amount of $212,093.51; seconded by Council Member P VOTE: YES NO ABSENT KIRK CHANDLER O' CONNOR OLIVER WATFORD MOTION: CARRIED;DENIED DISCUSSION: `1 t Request for the addition, deferral or withdrawal of items on today's agenda. �� °NA_ . 1. Presentation of Proclamation. 2 2. Citizen Advisory Council LDR Update - David Hazellief (El). 3. Hear from Mr. Jim Byrd regarding Building and Zoning. 4 4. Discuss Fire Truck Purchase - Councilman Chandler. i [ i ( f • r • 1 ; r ; e f t f. { y r i 4 t ;' ,.!_ tl ', is '„ t A VOTE: Council member moved to approve Glenda Wilson as a police dispatcher; seconded by Council Member r i ' YES NO ABSENT KIRK CHANDLER O'CONNOR OLIVER WATFORD MOTION: CARRIEDENIED Al VOTE: DISCUSSION Council member $' moved to close SW 4th Avenue between Parks 3 &4 for Martha's House craft show and auction on April 13, 1995 - Finance Director. YES NO ABSENT KIRK CHANDLER O'CONNOR OLIVER WATFORD MOTION: CARRIED/DENIED 7. Council Member ° moved to appoint Glenn Hodges to the fire Pension Board, seconded by Council Member tA!,. VOTE: DISCUSSION: YES NO ABSENT KIRK- CHANDLER 3' O'CONNOR OLIVER WATFORD MOTION: CARRIED/DENIED 8. Council Member ! F moved to appoint Jerry O'Bannon to the General Fund Employees Pension Board as Trustee; seconded by council Member VOTE: DISCUSSION: YES NO ABSENT KIRK CHANDLER O'CONNOR OLIVER' WATFORD" MOTION: CARRIED/DENIED 6 9. Discuss purchase of City Property - City Attorney (H). i. 10. Discuss Outstanding Liens - City Attorney (E4). �0. t m 11. Discuss Downtown Redevelopment Grant - City Administrator (E5). 41' 0 C CITY OF OKEECHOBEE 4/03/96 REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING HANDWRITTEN MINUTES 7 o U0,o �r Call meeting to order: Invocation: ).% ; Pledge:4 Mayor & Council attendance: Mayor Kirk Councilman Chandler Councilman O'Connor Councilman Oliver Councilman Watford Attorney Cook Administrator Drago Clerk Thomas Deputy Clerk Gamiotea PRESENT ABSENT i f D. Council Member %� moved to dispense with reading and approve the Summary of Council Action o the Special Meeting of January 30 1996 and the Regular meeting of February 20, 1996, seconded by Council Member �J VOTE: YES NO ABSENT KIRK CHANDLER O'CONNOR OLIVER WATFORD , MOTION: ENIED DISCUSSION- E. Council Member_ moved to approve Warrant Registers for January, 1996 in the amount of $300,894.30 and February, 1996 in the amount of $212.093.51; seconded by Council Member Ao. VOTE: YES NO ABSENT KIRK CHANDLER e O'CONNOR OLIVER i WATFORD MOTION: 4ARRIE��DENIED DISCUSSION - Request for the addition, deferral or withdrawal of items on today's agenda. t Presentation of Proclamation. C 2. Citizen Advisory Council LDR Update - David Hazellief (E1). 4), . �o 3 3. Hear from Mr. Jim Byrd regarding Building and Zoning. XI �j 4. Discuss Fire Truck Purchase - Councilman Chandler. -1/.L - �� 6L 5. Council member moved to approve Glenda Wilson as a police dispatcher; seconded by Council Member_. VOTE: YES NO ABSENT KIRK l CHANDLER O'CONNOR , OLIVER WATFORD MOTION ,CARRIED/ bENIED DISCUSSION: 6. Council member moved to close SW 4th Avenue between Parks 3 &4 for Martha's House craft show and auction on April 13, 1995 - Finance Director. VOTE: YES NO ABSENT KIRK CHANDLER O'CONNOR i OLIVER WATFORD i MOTION: �/CARRIEA- bENIED r 7. Council Member moved t appoint Glenn Hodges to the fire Pension Board; seconded by Council Member . VOTE: YES NO ABSENT KIRK i CHANDLER O'CONNOR OLIVER WATFORD MOTION: 'CARRI DENIED DISCUSSION: 8. Council Member moved to appoint Jerry O'Bannon to the General Fund Employees Pension Board as Trustee; seconded by council Member . VOTE: DISCUSSION. - YES NO ABSENT KIRK CHANDLER O'CONNOR OLIVER WATFORD i MOTION: A&A, RRI DENIED 6 9. Discuss purchase of City Property - City Attorney (H). = �2�=�1 ✓�d UGOi2�r.?.a�ti� ��GG�� i�Q� � d�G�. 10. Discuss Outstanding Liens - Cit Att rney (E4). r� -,2 �� 11. Discuss Downtown Redevelopment Grant - City Administrator (E5). A n, jo m In Z rn O 1 O rn m A r Z 0 S� A r O 1 rn z O (7) Z A m o N n n n ::4: (D (D O nG) 4 o v O O O O O (b Z3 C Z Z p n O n n C) 1 3 3 3 3 (D (D (D (D v 3 n 3 3 3 3 m O a b- t:y- O (D (D (D Q) fTl 1 ti O O O t�r t4. (D 2 CU O D D O j Q J O L � v C. n y C It n b C Z m y rn SW O co a C n v Cl) (D O O a (D D O m W -i�: C O (D � o -Tl (v v� 0 (D (D L O ((DD v C J O O cD (D C Q a O co N o- 73 O n� Q v O m N M cr, 0 0 0 v a 0 ((DD v 0 Z3 4) O O (OD b v (D 0 D W S :n 1 u Office of the Mayor Cayor � pror[ttmtttiun WHEREAS, child abuse and neglect is a serious and growing problem affecting more than 3.1 �y million of our nation's children annually and over 3,500 of children locally; and WHEREAS, the societal malignancy called child abuse and neglect respects no racial, religious, class, or geographical boundaries, and, in fact, has been declared a national emergency; and WHEREAS, the Exchange Club C.A.S.T.L.E. of the Treasure Coast, Inc., Tri County Tec, Center for Children in Crisis, Hibiscus Children's Center and Children's Home Society through their support of parent aide programs, parenting classes and educational programs, are making significant progress in stopping this crime against our nations and community's children and families, - NOW THEREFORE, I James E. Kirk, Mayor of the City of Okeechobee do hereby proclaim the . entire month of April, 1996 shall be observed as CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION month in the City of Okeechobee, and 1 urge all citizens to use this time to better understand, recognize, and respond to this grievous problem; AND, FURTHER, I congratulate the above -mentioned agencies for their continued success in L helping families break free from the cycle of child abuse. 9,1 ("Unfit gaut ImIf unto jet my Rapid aid [ati3td t/2i1 seat to LL a//i.j. DIIE. E-1 INWA MEMORANDUM TO: John J. Drago, City Administrator ►F UKEECHOBEE OFFICE OF THE CITY CLERK & PERSONNEL DIRECTOR � r FROM: David Hazellief, LDR Citizen Advisory Committee Chairperson DATE: March 29, 1996 SUBJECT: April 3rd Agenda Item Please provide an item on the April 3rd Agenda for me to address and update the City Council on the Committee's progress. Your attention to this matter is greatly appreciated. Thank You!! E ZellJ�` d i k L,,..z.. VERBATIM OF IT M ON FIRE TRUCK AUGUST 22, 14WORKSHOP TOMEY: Can I make a comment? If you were to purchase ,t4lClass A pumper or any newpieceof equipment you're looking on a Class A pumper you're looking a years delivery day. 1."m talking about from the time that you decide to budget the money until that piece of equipment is -probably sitting here in front of the station, it could be up to a year at least 10 months. And the same way, the tanker would not take quite that long, but again it would take in excess of 5 months. So it's not like you want to purchase a piece of equipment, that come October 1 Oth you've got to have the money, I mean, not in house. KIRK: How many trucks do we have now? TOMEY: We have 4 that we're functioning with, we own 5, we have 4 that we use, truck number two which is the small brush truck as we call it on a four chassey, truck number three which is the 1956 kraser it's a military truck, the forestry owns the chassey and then you have truck four which is the C-900, is a Ford chassey with a cab over that's a 1974 and then you have the GMC which is made my Indiana Firefighters which is a 1980. O'CONNOR: Which is the one you just spent the eight grand on? TOMEY: The 1980. WATFORD: Number five. O'CONNOR: The Jimmy? WATFORD: `Course it was on the body. TOMEY: Yeah. The best way to explain that to you is the body, the back part of the truck the braces actually broke loose and the body had actually fell two inches down on it...... spend that money ..... actually go in there, all the way inside the body, reweld the new braces across there bolt the new braces in there and then put everything back together .... then put the drive train in, the pump or anything like that the only thing they did do to it while they had it out was they had what they call an overfill in the tank where you fill the water up it overflows out on the ground, that pipe was corroded, they replaced that sand blast the tank recoated it stuff lilce that to make it last a little bit longer, but other than that the $8,000 was to cover welding the body back on. IQRK: How much money are you asking for here, have you added it up? TOMEY: Yeah, $500,000. CHANDLER: What's the least you'd take? TOMEY: I know it's a lot of money, but again your talking about spending whether you just purchase one or all three your talking about buying equipment that's going to last 20 years. IQRK: Which one are you in most desperate need for Chief? TOMEY: The first one, the Class A Pumper. IQRK: Have you got them rated here? TOMEY: The second would be the tanker truck the item number three. I put then in order of the way they cost. IQRK: The tanker truck... TOMEY: That'd be number two. OLIVER: Class A Pumper is number one? IQRIC That a right? TOMEY: That's a and b, the reason you see a and b there is there's two types of chassey's you can put them on. IQRI�: Ok now, item number two is number two as far as you're concerned? The ladder truck? TOMEY: No that's number three. WATFORD: Number three is number two. OLIVER: We spent in actual repairs and maintenance on vehicles 93/94 almost $15,000; estimated this year to be almost $17,500 and budgeted next year $12,000. I know we just spent $8,500 what else goes into that $17000 and what else went into that $14,800 last year? TOMEY: The $14,000 last year went for the replacement of the engine. I don't remember if four was the one we worked on for five, both engines have been rebuilt. Also goes into that anytime you have, for example truck four's emergency brake went out, we had to actually physically take the emergency brake off the truck, send it to Ft. Pierce they had to send it to Orlando and have it remanufactured because they no longer make that style of emergency brake. We've had to buy a carborator for truck four and that was right at $500. Alfreds worked on the carborator three times and it still isn't running. CHANDLER: Is that the one that's over there now? TOMEY: When you repair these trucks now the age of them, the parts are hard to find and when you do find the parts, they cost. I had the brakes redone on five, it just takes money when you have to go and get them repaired. And that repair and maintenance also goes for MSA Air packs ..... not just the trucks, nozzles, Air packs have to be recertified and that's $9.00 a bottle and there 22 of them. IQRI<-: I don't know what to say because I don't know if we need a fire truck or not. O'CONNOR: These trucks that you're talking about are new, these Class A Pumpers? TOMEY: Yes. That price is a new price not a used price. O'CONNOR: I just hate to think about if we did spend $500,000 on fire trucks and two years from now the fire departments consolidated and there goes our $500,000. It's something to think about. TOMEY: Someone brought that up to me today, you did (Dowling). This equipment is something that can be used whether it's City or County, this is something here that you can request in your agreement if it went to that it be kept in the City and used in the City too. There's many avenues to look at. I don't think spending the money for this equipment is any way a waste as far as the community goes. O'CONNOR: I'm not saying it's a waste I'm just trying to figure out a way that you can fund it. IGRIC We've made it for a long time with the equipment we've got, if we started going with this in pieces one a time with that make more sense to the Council? For $500,000 and that's a lot of money and most of us aren't experts in fire I think our Administrator has some expertise, he may add anything he wishes to give us here. OLIVER: If we prioritize these things and went with the number one item and finances the number one item on there over a period of time, I don't think that would be a tremendous bit out of our, I mean instead of spending the whole amount up front the same way we lease the police car. WATFORD: That was one of my questions Mr. Mayor, back when we got number five how did we do that, you were here then weren't you? DRAGO: no sir. WATFORD: Who was here? TOMEY: I was here when we got number five. We financed it through Barnett Bank we made five payments and we paid it off over a five year period. WATFORD: I thought Mr. Drago had done that one cause it was a financing miracle or something. DRAGO: I don't take credit for that one. IGRK: If we end up truing up and we got $200,000 ........ are we better off paying it or financing it? Let's say we end up with $700,000 lets buy the thing, lets comment the $200,000 and then next time around we'll look at his second request. O'CONNOR: The other day when I was talking to you and this ladder truck came up, this truck also has a water carrying capacity on it? TOMEY: Most ..... have the water carrying capacity of 300 gallons. O'CONNOR: Someone told me a different figure on how much an aerial truck will carry. I went over and was talldng to some of your firemen today. And of coarse he said a ladder truck would be nice too. But when I asked you, you said it would be nice now your telling me that you would rather have the pumper rather than an aerial truck? TOMEY: The Mayor asked me to prioritize them 1,2,3, that's what I done ok? O'CONNOR: Ok, now what you told me the other day was and I want to be real clear about this, is that you said just like you did in this paragraph here about we have a lot of buildings that are over 70 feet and what if somebody was stuck inside of it, who you gonna get them out, but your still saying you'd rather have a pumper than a ladder truck. TOMEY: Yeah cause we could have more calls to use the pumper than the aerial. We need all 3 of them, you say we don't have the money and I agree, which one do I want first, if I have to choose, then I want the Class A Pumper. O'CONNOR: What I'm referring to then is you just spent $8,000 on the truck and you got it in fairly good shape, is that not right (the body should not fall off - I can't answer your question) What I'm trying to figure out is if you can get by with the pumper truck you got and you don't have a ladder truck at all would it not be depending on rated on a percentage of how many fires you have and everything I was wondering if it wouldn't be wise to have the ladder truck. I'm not a fireman but I'm sure thinking there might be places were you can use that ladder truck also and still get by with the pumper you have because If get by with pumper tank and don't have ladder truck get it first. TOMEY: Trade in 20-25,000 been advised to advertise to sell out right. IQRK: Parking? TOMEY: Get rid of one. WATFORD: new Class A pumper solve problem of no ride on back? (Yes) first out yes, #2 and #4 get rid of More sense to concentrate on Class A pumper. Drago to do some creative financing - these are municipal leasing arrangements that can be made and we may not out yes, #2 and #4 get rid of More sense to concentrate on Class A pumper. Drago to do some creative financing - theme re municipal leasing arrangements that can be made and we may not be liable for total if leased. TOMEY: Your municipal leases are 8%. WATFORD: Same thing if put in budget lease one, payment for this year, but must be bid out. IQRK: Could put in Budget and come back to us. O'CONNOR: Custom Class A Pumper, not convert, talked to Administrator. i TOMEY: explains difference between custom (25 yrs) Conventional (15 yrs). Ford better than GMC. O'CONNOR: ' f TOMEY: Whose picture of reonventual and custom fire trucks. Custom altered for fire truck only. AQ9+wen-al could be for other uses O'CONNOR: If �etventua�f (s fire truck must meet codes? TOMEY: Yes. OLIVER: Should agree in concept but should get quotes on both. IQRK: I understand better on started out to be a fire truck. Put money in budget to cover the top one then decide, if lease ok. DRAGO: 2 sets of specs $250,000 ($50,000 for equipment) Cushion, I -ceffve— n at- I custom. We need to be specific on what we need if 1" want freightliner if Ford Cargo say what want Spartan, Gladiator, otherwise manufacturer will give marginally what they want you to have. KIRK: We are in general agreement. Make specs very clear. WATFORD: Don't bid yet. 6 IQRK: But when we do, be sure specs are clear. TOMEY: 90 days easy to get specs WATFORD: you need to get with Administrator for specs then he can give us information on financing. DRAGO: 170,000 interest, best to pay cash, not lease, if want to finance do it, want to put number in budget of $220,000 what portion is equipment? Think you need to put in $250,000. O'CONNOR: if don't spend but $235,000 what happens to the money? DRAGO: goes back to budget. $250,000 ok, I'll add it to the budget. 7 COMMERCIAL VS CUSTOM FIRE APPARATUS Starting in the late 1800's, basic long distance transportation in the United States was provided by railroad, and trucks were largely unknown. Initially there was no relationship between fire apparatus and truck manufacture. As the truck market grew. it was confined to city delivery units, with low horsepower engines and chassis ill suited for adaptation to fire engines. Thus in the 20's and 30's, old line manufacturer's such as American LaFrance and Seagrave began to produce "custom" fire apparatus, including their own engines, transmissions, pumps, and drivelme systems to meet a unique need... fire trucks require a great deal of horsepower to pump water, but NOT to travel down the street. Starting in the 1960's the railroads began their decline and the over -the -road trucking firms began to take over basic long distance transportation in the U.S. This stimulated firms such as Cummins. Caterpillar and Detroit Diesel to develop larger engines to haul greater loads. up to 831000 lbs. As time went on, the old line fire apparatus companies purchased these components because they were cheaper than making their own. In addition, competitive pressures have virtually eliminated all but two fire pump manufacturers (Hale and Waterous), who now serve over 90% of the market. Thus the concept of "custom" fire truck has become blurred. When the proper basic components are selected to build a fire truck from manufacturers such as Bendix- Westinghouse. Rockwell International, General Motors and Caterpillar. they do not differ from standard components offered to a very large trucking industn-. In fact. since fire app�lratus represents less than 1 % of the million trucks built even veer, an%, fire truck builder -Nould be a cool to consider building his own components. Consider the follow*n« facts: The chassis is approximately 50% the cost of the fire apparatus. ?. The engine and transmission are approximately 5061c the cost of the chassis. 3. The fire pump and plumbing are about 1/6th the cost of the entire apparatus. There isn't much left over. The unique point about fire pumpers is the requirements to pump water. For a truck that weighs barely 35,000 lbs., a 350 HP engine seems ridiculous. It would be just to push it down the street, but the problem is the pump. No other kind of truck has this requirement, just small fire trucks. Another unique requirement is warning lights and sirens, and the excessive electrical draw to operate those systems. Fire apparatus electrical systems typically are minimum of 165 amp, not 80 amp as is standard on commercial trucks. Because of the large loads, fire apparatus requires larger wiring harnesses, including gauges and instruments, because as volts drop amps increase, such as sitting still with all systems on full blast. Fire pumpers and aerial ladder trucks are also unique in that they are ALWAYS loaded to near GVWR. The pumper MUST sit in the station full of water, not empty. For this reason, suspension systems are unique, being much larger and heavier than commercial trucks. Is it possible to make a commercial chassis into a fire truck? Yes, within limits. The best combinations are those fire departments that have a low use cycle for the apparatus, and small pumping requirements. A good example was the Ford 6-900 gasoline chassis, costing in its time about $28,000 vs $34,000 for its diesel cousin. This chassis could be modified for a crew cab, and would support a 1000 GPM pump, and hold up to 1000 gallons of water. However, in January of 1985, gasoline truck engines bit the dust. ONLY diesel was available, and the era of the low cost commercial was gone. For those departments requiring 1250 to 1500 GPM pumps. the rules change drastically. Now ,l Class 8 chassis is required, those normally set up for over -the -road use, with minimu,:� 00 hp diesel en-?ines. In chassis of that size, ONLY TWO TYPE EXIST: Long nose conventional. High cab overs. As a fire truck, long nose conventional cabs increase the wheelbase by 30" to 40", increasing the turning diameter by 10' to 201, making maneuverability on streets, alleys and cul de sacs nearly impossible. High cab overs, while short on wheelbase, present two other problems as fire apparatus. The first is the high cab floor height, making egress with an air pack dangerous, and the near impossibility of adding an enclosed crew cab, which is a requirement under NFPA 1901, as of March 1 1987, if manpower requirements dictate more than two people. Therefore the "custom" fire truck is back. But what's custom? Basically, the cab. The problems presented to build a fire truck ARE unique. Once the engine, transmission, pump, drivelines, electrical system, suspension, tires and wheels are selected to do the job, then comes the problem of wheelbase, seating for four or five people, and the cab is the turning point. Fire truck cabs are designed to perform the following functions: 1. Easy entrance and egress. ?. Maintain a short wheelbase, for maneuverability. 3. keep sound levels down, to permit accurate radio transmission and reduce hearing impairment. 4. Allow space for fire -related equipment, such as radios. air packs, and specialized tools. 5. Provide for the unique maintenance requirements of a chassis that shall be cycled out in twenty years, not five years. If one compares a chassis built for over -the -road with a fire truck chassis, the cost difference is less than 10''c. The quotation from the local Peterbuilt dealer may initially seem attractive, but in order to comply with NFPA provisions, the following items NIL'ST be ridded: i. Fourth ?ear automatic transmission lockups. ?. Slip resistent handrails. 3. Fully enclosed crew cab. 4. Larger alternator, 160 AMP to 350 AMP. 5. Extra suspension for a "fixed" near the GVWR. 6. Fabrication of a new fuel tank and system, to place the tank out of the wav of the pump and compartments. 7. Addition of an air system dryer that will operate AT REST, as well as additional tanks for tool use. 8. Addition of a "rapid build up" air system, to allow IMMEDIATE response. This includes a larger air compressor and a plumbing system that "prioritizes" air system build up or an on board 110 VAC air compressor with shoreline. Things that can NOT be done to a commercial chassis include: 1. Re -wiring for higher electrical loads and utilizing a full grounding system, far microprocessor protection. 2. Placing frame crossmembers for maximum stiffness when a pump is installed. (There is NO crossmember in a commercial chassis between the radiator and the end of the pump.) �. Selecting wheelbase for exact requirements of the components to be placed on the chassis. The end result is a pump compartment that is too small to maintain, and/or a walkway behind the jump seats that is near to impossible to exit with an air pack donned. 4. Modifying commercial chassis for "exempt" axle loads. Typical commercial axle ratings, due to state and federal laws are 12,000 lbs. front and 18,000 lbs. per rear axle. Fire apparatus is from 14,400 lbs. to 20,000 lbs. front, and IS.5000 lbs. to 31.000 lbs. rear. Nlodif%-ing cooling systems for maximum heat rejec,ion �ehile pumping . Commercial chassis are built to reject heat while travelling down the road with the "ram effect". 6. Relocating the position of the engine and transmission to accommodate a pump installation. The result is bad driveline angularities, over 12 degrees, which result in high wear and occasional catastrophic failure (broken rear drivelines smash pumps). 7. Air systems designed for truckers, not for fire trucks. The only user who really cares about air leaks is the fire service, because we have to get out of quarters NOW. Commercial air systems never take this into account because there is no need. 3. No commercial chassis, as delivered, can be as properly mated to fire truck components as a chassis built from the ground up to be a fire truck. Location Of exhaust components, placing of water tank and body supports, pump mounting and placement, drivelines angularities, frame length and wheelbase for safe and proper component location, and seIivice accessibility around the completed fire apparatus unit are all considerations taken into account with a "custom" chassis. E-2 CITY OF OKEECHOBEE MEMORANDUM TO- James Kirk, Mayor DATE: March 27, 1996 City Council SUBJECT: 5th Member of Pension Board ;,'RUo John Drago, Administrator THRU: FROM: Keith Torrey, Fire Chie�'Ilx The Pension Board has elected Glenn Hodges as the 5th member. "hank you E-3 CITY OF OKEECHOBEE MEMORANDUM TO: Mayor and City Council DATE: March 27, 1996 SUBJECT: PURCHASE OF CITY PROPERTY FROM: John J. Drago, City Administrator Mr. G.H. Murphy would like to purchase a piece of property from the City which is located at the north 60' of the old sewer plant (copy attached). This piece of property is adjacent to property already owned by Mr. Murphy. He plans to improve the site. At the present time, the City is not using the property. Mr. Murphy would like the City to discuss the sale of this property; it would then be appraised, and the City Council would discuss an equitable cost for this piece of land. >f 3 . h 1- > 'N N W "1 tic w w aw a vi P4 R e f CITY OF OKEECHO'-tVEE MEMO) Rkyaum TO- Mayor and City Council DATE: March 26, 1996 John J. Drago, C.A. SUBJECT: Code Board Recommendation. =U: P� E - 4 _-,`)M: Keith Tomey, Code Enforcement Officer **********************************t****.'.******_t*************Ic:t V.:1: ***** Below is the list of liens the city has put on property. The Code Enforcement Board, at their regular meating on March 12, 1996, recommended to send the list of liens to the City Council and all outstanding liens over one thousand dollars (S1000.00) recommend the City Council agree to a title search and foreclosure procedures. 26-93- 7 r`.mer:can MortQane Sen Lien of S2400.00 % Phillip Baueister 0 Pazii�:aBonaDfei 11-19-95 Or.Goi1-ig $ 93,500.00 26-9el- 3 Anna .lane Breiand Lien of 531.8 7 -93- 7 Marsha Ann Clay 9-2-93 On Going $141 , 7 50.00 10-90 riorence Gludice 3-26-90 S500.00 � <=-9G-g Louis B. Fine 10--- -90 On Going $ 99,200.00 �5-94-6 Mae Be 'cc riead Lien of 52958 Jaccuedne I -Ever _- 7-95 On Going $ 20,600.00 _7-90-6 Roper: & Linda Kenne^v ien of 535G.0G 31-93-9 77-7 7 Abbott & T Landis Lien of 53000.0G 18-91-5 Joe Lawson_ Lien of S1550.00 19-9 -5 Joe "Lawson L 'en o1. SI-50.00 ride: & Paula yfiriies Lien of529.58 10-92-5 John Mul.av E=1 i 6-19-92 On Going $20 7 , 750.00 25-90 Serena C-asl:im Pooier Lien of S500.00 42-90 Yf c:.aei & P=*c.'a Powe1 9-22-90 On Goinz $ 25,95M0 36-91-11 Ba--bara Roof ': 92 On Going $146,000.00 24-94-6 W T Rooks Lien of S29.58 27-93-8 State of - iorida 8-30-93- On Going $142, 200.00 7-93-8 State of Florida 11-29-93 On Going $237.000.00 8-92-5 State of Florida 6-2-92 On Going $210,300.00 37-93-11 State of Florida 11-29-93 On Going $214, 250.00 E5 CITY OF OKEECHOBEE MEMORANDUM TO: Mayor and City Council DATE: March 29, 1996 SUBJECT: CDBG FROM: John J. Drago, City Administrator U The City is nearing the time for a decision to be made on whether to proceed or not with the Downtown Revitalization Grant. There have been many rumors going around concerning the grant and whether the property owners wanted to go forward with the Grant. I sent out a questionnaire form to each property owner who signed up for the Grant. As of this date, I received 19 yes, 1 no, and 2 did not respond. This is a clear indication that a large majority still want to go forward with the Grant. The next step in the process is to have an aerial photegrammetric and ground survey performed. Proposal were requested, received, and the following are the rank order: 1. DeHays Design, Okeechobee 2. Lawson, Noble, & Webb, West Palm Beach 3. Velcon Group, Inc., Port St. Lucie If the City Council wants to proceed with the Grant, authorization would have to be given tome to negotiate a contract with the rank order firms above. If the City Council doeo want to proceed with the Grant, authorization would have to be given to me to off YkF i`� notify the State to cancel the Grant. JJD:nb